tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6072479063452233450.post104838162455721550..comments2024-03-13T19:28:05.813-04:00Comments on Ohio Birds and Biodiversity: Rough GreensnakeJim McCormachttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07444322057532066466noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6072479063452233450.post-12021600722052185712010-09-22T19:53:20.188-04:002010-09-22T19:53:20.188-04:00I don't have much experience with Rough Greens...I don't have much experience with Rough Greens, although I've seen one diurnally active in South Carolina, and a couple dozen in southern Illinois. Perhaps those large eyes equate to a better-developed sense of sight and less reliance on tongue-flicking for finding prey (insects)? <br /><br />I've seen about fifteen smooth greens now and they seem quite active during the day, including a very fresh DOR midday. I've never heard anything about either of these species being nocturnal so your findings, Jim, are pretty cool.Jarednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6072479063452233450.post-12703525618323680062010-08-30T10:29:55.713-04:002010-08-30T10:29:55.713-04:00Most of the local references discuss the diurnal l...Most of the local references discuss the diurnal lifestyle of the rough green (Minton's Indiana herp book, Wynn/Moody's Reptile atlas, Conant) but they definitely do turn up at night. There is also probably some seasonal variation to their activity patterns. I don't have nearly as much experience with smooth greens (just a handful of individuals from a NE Ohio local) but I would imagine they are more diurnal.Buckeyeherperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04511804617379162369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6072479063452233450.post-60651440888867894262010-08-28T22:17:18.304-04:002010-08-28T22:17:18.304-04:00Jim,
I didn't have my copy of Wagner's cat...Jim,<br />I didn't have my copy of Wagner's caterpillar book with me when I typed that. I looked today and I still think it is one of the Datanas, appropriately enough the Walnut Caterpillar- instead of Angus's Datana. I forgot Angus's has white stripes along the body.<br />BrianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6072479063452233450.post-65863369919946593942010-08-28T12:42:02.032-04:002010-08-28T12:42:02.032-04:00Thanks for the comments, all. I appreciate the inf...Thanks for the comments, all. I appreciate the info about the caterpillars, Brian. Your ID certainy looks good to me!<br /><br />Also, Wil Hershberger sent me a note saying that the tree cricket is probably a Broad-winged and his explanation certainly makes sense.<br /><br />Buckeyherper, hadn't heard that about Rough Greens being mostly diurnal. I've now seen a few out at night and they seemed active. And with that big honking eye it certainly looks like they are equipped for the dark of night. I wonder if perhaps the Smooth Greensnake is perhaps more diurnal...<br /><br />Anyway, I love to learn about all of this stuff and really appreciate feedback and good information!<br /><br />JimJim McCormachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07444322057532066466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6072479063452233450.post-69186801526913762102010-08-27T23:15:38.608-04:002010-08-27T23:15:38.608-04:00Jim,
I use black walnut leaves to rear Saturniids(...Jim,<br />I use black walnut leaves to rear Saturniids(I have a crop of Lunas right now, but have also reared Cecropia and Polyphemus on it). Anyway, in gathering walnut leaves, I've found lots of other things feeding on it, and I believe your shot is not Fall Webworms, but Angus's Datana (check Wagner). They feed communally too, but are bigger, and have black bodies with longer, wispier hairs than the webworm. It didn't look like there were webs in the photo either. I love Rough greensnakes too. I have only seen them on 2 occasions, both by the dam at William Harsha Lake(East Fork) in Clermont County back in the mid-90s.<br /><br />Brian MenkerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6072479063452233450.post-14878435794681881082010-08-27T02:17:21.240-04:002010-08-27T02:17:21.240-04:00Awesome. One of the many herps I miss now living i...Awesome. One of the many herps I miss now living in Michigan. There are a few studies that talk about the ease of finding rough greens while spot lighting at night along lake shores. Unfortunately, I or my close friends were never able to replicate this. Rough greens are actually mostly diurnal, supposedly you spot light them while sleeping at night. I have seen many, all have been active during the day or DORs. It is neat this one was active at night. Just goes to show herps don't always read the books.Buckeyeherperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04511804617379162369noreply@blogger.com